I'm not homophobic, I just don't like gayness
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I'm not homophobic, I just don't like gayness Posted on Jan 10 2007 at 8:06pm by I don't approve of being gay at all. I don't mind gay people, I mean shoot - we're all sinners - but I'm tired of being anti-gay relationship & gay marriage and being called a homophob - what's the deal with that? I think if God had intended for people to be gay, then men could reproduce on their own. 
RE: I'm not homophobic, I just don't like gayness Posted on Jan 10 2007 at 8:53pm by Well, shoot...then God sure did make a lot of mistakes if we're not all baby makers. I mean, those with disabilities, heterosexuals that cannot have children, people that are born gay...sexuality is not determined by who can reproduce. Because like I said, if that were the case...there are MANY people who cannot have children for a variety of reasons...and MANY people who should never be allowed to have kids...reproduction does not determine love or vice versa.
dmaycock wrote:
(Jan 10 2007 @ 08:06pm)
I don't approve of being gay at all. I don't mind gay people, I mean shoot - we're all sinners - but I'm tired of being anti-gay relationship & gay marriage and being called a homophob - what's the deal with that? I think if God had intended for people to be gay, then men could reproduce on their own.
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RE: I'm not homophobic, I just don't like gayness Posted on Jan 10 2007 at 10:48pm by I agree with ya. In this era of Political Correctness if you're not for something then you are against it.
Many people doen't believe in Christ, does that make them Christian-phobes? Double Standard anyone???
And anyways, a truly tolerant person should tolerate intolerance.RE: I'm not homophobic, I just don't like gayness Posted on Jan 11 2007 at 12:51am by You know, the reproduction argument may have a different angle. Let's say that we accept and agree that one of the goals of the kind of relationship that God approves is faithfulness. That is the argument many on this board are using to defend homosexual relationships that are ok, versus those that aren't because they are not committed and faithful. Ok, so if we did all agree on that point, then I could use the argument about reproduction to attack that position by saying, "Hey, since God makes so many unfaithful and uncommitted people, then we shouldn't be able to say that faithful relationships are ok and unfaithfulness is not ok."
Another way to put it is that if we all did everything we were born wanting or liking, then we would have a situation of lawlessness.
So let's assume for minute that reproduction might be, like commitment and faithfulness, one of the things God wants for couples (if couples are a God thing, too, because God has made so many people who like to do threesomes, maybe those should be considered ok, too, etc.). Then we could substitute "faithfulness" and "reproduction" interchangeably. We would then say that those who engage in unfaithfulness in relationships are not engaging in God approved relationships. Or, we could say that those engaged in unproductive relationships are not engaging in God approved relationships.
Now I AM NOT arguing for either side of the issue, but asking the question of how we're to determine what is or isn't God approved so we can at least try to live an approved life, even though we know that we all fall short. What's the standard? And if there is one, then shouldn't we feel that we're ok in proclaiming it, as long as we leave God to be judge and we only share our thoughts in peace and love and, more importantly, that we really and truly show love and regard for the people whose lives need to more in line with God's will (revealed will?).
Has God revealed His will to us, or are we, by rendering the Bible so problematic as some here do, left to find His will through our own devices? I don't like gayness either, but I do have several homosexual friends. I'm willing to keep loving them no matter, but what if I'm wrong and I should not only love them, but approve of their lifestyle? Then I'd like to know that and get busy feeling and acting that way, if someone can just show it to me.
Is it possible that law and love are two sides of the same coin? That's what the reformers taught. A great quote that I can't properly attribute goes something like: Law is the eyes of love... without law, love is blind; love is the heart of law... without love, law is cold and dead.
I've always been taught that the law is not for judging others, but for understanding who God is. The 10 commandments are a portrait of His moral character. That is why Jesus came, to live the law we could not live and pay the price we owed. His perfect life, fulfilling our positive obligation to obey God's law, or mimic His character, and perfect sacrifice, satisfying God's judgment in our place.
Otherwise why did Jesus come, and what did He come to do?
