I can't say I'm surprised.
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I can't say I'm surprised. Posted on Sep 20 2006 at 4:50pm by I'm a 52 yo women living in the midwest and I never thought I'd see the day when I became afraid of my own government. My daughter lives in NY only blocks from ground zero. What's in her future? We've not only been terrorized by the fanatacs but now we're being terrorized by our own governments lies. I watch the news and every time I learn of another deception it's like a blow to the stomach. I remember how I felt as a young girl when our teacher's told us to hide under our desks in the event of a "bombing". I was nervous, unable to concentrate.... I feel the same way now. What else don't we know? When is the other shoe going to drop? And it doesn't end here...I'm terrified of the IRS, the health system...you name it. I used to be so proud of our country. And I still am...of it's people, not it's government. 
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I'm not suprised, just heartbroken Posted on Dec 4 2006 at 12:40pm by My father, a passionate runner who never smoked and rarely drank, was two months away from retirement from the NYC Fire Department on 9/11/01. A high ranking officer who had been in the department for over 30 years, I feel fortunate that he was home in Long Island when the first plane hit.
My father drove firt to his department in queens, and then toward ground zero, and was less than 5 miles from the sight when the second building fell. We prayed, and thanks God that my fatherwas spared when so many of his friends were not.
In the months to follow, my father was emotionally devistated; working at ground zero up to 12 hours a day, all while attending more than 70 funerals in sixty days. The guilt he felt was unbearable, digging through the rubble while burying all the brothers he felt he should have been along side. We attempted to comfort my father by telling him how he was needed here with us, and that his work was not done.
Now, five years later, my 59 year old father is suffering from liver cancer. They've removed his gall bladder, 1/2 of his liver and his bile duct. When I speak to God these days, I ask that my father live long enough to get to know my son, and to talk to him about not having blind faith in anything.
New York City, Mayor Guliani, and Georg Bush lied to my father. He is a hero who deserves a hero's recognition. Instead, this former runner struggles to walk around the block.RE: I'm not suprised, just heartbroken Posted on Dec 29 2006 at 9:44pm by joemac29 wrote:
(Dec 04 2006 @ 12:40pm)
My father, a passionate runner who never smoked and rarely drank, was two months away from retirement from the NYC Fire Department on 9/11/01. A high ranking officer who had been in the department for over 30 years, I feel fortunate that he was home in Long Island when the first plane hit.
My father drove firt to his department in queens, and then toward ground zero, and was less than 5 miles from the sight when the second building fell. We prayed, and thanks God that my fatherwas spared when so many of his friends were not.
In the months to follow, my father was emotionally devistated; working at ground zero up to 12 hours a day, all while attending more than 70 funerals in sixty days. The guilt he felt was unbearable, digging through the rubble while burying all the brothers he felt he should have been along side. We attempted to comfort my father by telling him how he was needed here with us, and that his work was not done.
Now, five years later, my 59 year old father is suffering from liver cancer. They've removed his gall bladder, 1/2 of his liver and his bile duct. When I speak to God these days, I ask that my father live long enough to get to know my son, and to talk to him about not having blind faith in anything.
New York City, Mayor Guliani, and Georg Bush lied to my father. He is a hero who deserves a hero's recognition. Instead, this former runner struggles to walk around the block.
RE: I'm not suprised, just heartbroken Posted on Dec 29 2006 at 11:10pm by I saw the program as a rerun on Dec 28. I am heartsick at the treatment of those brave men who were forced to dig out their dead friends as they cleaned up Billionaire Larry Silvarstein's asbestos laden white elephant towers. What many of those interviewed on the show probably didn't know was that Mr. Silvarstein had taken out MASSIVE amounts of terrorist attack insurance ONLY A FEW WEEKS before the planes were allowed to fly into the towers, unchallenged. The insurance claim was paid in full even though such a recent insurance purchase should have raised insurance fraud red flags in almost any other claim but this one. As the virtual owner/leaseholder of the property, he had the responsibility for cleaning up the asbestos in his newly leased buildings - something that would have COST him billions to do if he followed EPA mandated procedures. The demolition of both towers and, mysteriously, building #7 several hours later, conveniently relieved him of that job.
However, I do NOT believe that it should relieve him of all legal responsibility for the after effects of asbestos exposure in those who did the cleanup job for him. As leaseholder, he HAD to have known about the asbestos problems in his buildings. Whether he ever publicaly admits to this or not, he was, never the less, responsible for the proper handling of this known carcinogen in his buildings. Therefore, it seems to me, on a gut level, those who were indirectly performing his asbestos removal job for him, should have a claim to some of his insurance payout.
He was interviewed on PBS and talked about his decision to "pull" (demolish) building 7 on 9/11. (How this was arranged so quickly is anybody's guess.) He was clearly involved in some decision making responsibilities regarding what was being done to his buildings after the attacks. He had more than ample time to inform the NYPD and NYFD about the risks involved with cleaning up his buildings. Yet he chose NOT to.
If it were me or one of my kids who had their health ruined, I would legally go after Mr. Silvarstein. I wouldn't do it in New York if at all possible, where it appears that those with a lot of money and friends in the judicial system have thus far been rather successful in avoiding legal responsibility for not doing the things they should have.
If the cleanup workers had been injured from toxic exposure in any situation other than this, those who controlled the buildings would have been quickly sued and/or at least had contractor liens placed on their property.
I am curious as to why no one brought this issue up in the program. Have any of those whose health have been ruined thought of holding Mr Silvarstein responsible for his keeping the asbestos danger secret?
joemac29 wrote:
(Dec 04 2006 @ 12:40pm)
My father, a passionate runner who never smoked and rarely drank, was two months away from retirement from the NYC Fire Department on 9/11/01. A high ranking officer who had been in the department for over 30 years, I feel fortunate that he was home in Long Island when the first plane hit.
My father drove firt to his department in queens, and then toward ground zero, and was less than 5 miles from the sight when the second building fell. We prayed, and thanks God that my fatherwas spared when so many of his friends were not.
In the months to follow, my father was emotionally devistated; working at ground zero up to 12 hours a day, all while attending more than 70 funerals in sixty days. The guilt he felt was unbearable, digging through the rubble while burying all the brothers he felt he should have been along side. We attempted to comfort my father by telling him how he was needed here with us, and that his work was not done.
Now, five years later, my 59 year old father is suffering from liver cancer. They've removed his gall bladder, 1/2 of his liver and his bile duct. When I speak to God these days, I ask that my father live long enough to get to know my son, and to talk to him about not having blind faith in anything.
New York City, Mayor Guliani, and Georg Bush lied to my father. He is a hero who deserves a hero's recognition. Instead, this former runner struggles to walk around the block.
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