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  • I wonder... Posted on May 13 2008 at 5:29pm by mkshade1
    What it would be like if a man put himself on screen in such an evocative and revealing way?
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    • RE: I wonder... Posted on May 13 2008 at 10:43pm by zohefilms
      I must say when I thought of making FLYING many years ago (of course then it wasn't called FLYING, I called it "Women and I'), I thought I would find a male filmmaker to make a parallel film about the way men speak and male relationships. I still really want to see a man take up this challenge. I think men has a unique language just as women do -- and I think we don't understand it often any more then men understand women's language. That's shy I always wanted a man to lead me through his world so I could 'see' how it works and the nature of male relationships...
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      • RE: I wonder... Posted on May 14 2008 at 2:12pm by sweet.jane.342
        A film about the special way men speak could only be shown on HBO or Showtime, and only after 11:00 PM.
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    • RE: I wonder... Posted on May 14 2008 at 2:04pm by jimmy.j.madison
      I can't fathom men being revealing in the same manner because of the way men have been socialized. Men tend to internalize things; their special way of communicating could not be captured visibly. We tend to think of self-analysis as more of a private matter; I can't see a lot of men who would be really be willing to let themselves be psycho-analyzed with the world watching.
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      • RE: I wonder... Posted on May 14 2008 at 3:20pm by sweet.jane.342
        Wow, jimmy madison, you are really giving men way too much credit. It has nothing to do with internalizing. Men are just not that interesting. There is nothing to be revealed! Seriously, do you know what it's like to be the only girl in a room full of guys? My boyfriend and I live together, and his loser friends come over all the time. It's a case study in primitive human behavior. They sit around watching TV and talking about which girls they want to "nail" or "bag" (the girls they choose, by the way, are always out of their league). Then they start talking about baseball, and then one of them tells a penis joke, and then another one tells a penis joke built from the previous penis joke, and they build a little penis joke pyramid, and then one of them farts and they all fall on the floor laughing. And you are trying to tell me there is something psychologically complex going on underneath all of that? I'm not sold.
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        • RE: I wonder... Posted on May 14 2008 at 4:05pm by sam.s.bruce
          I think men tend to get rowdy in a pack mentality, and sure, it can be primitive, but it would be presumptuous to think that is the whole of male behavior. I think two men hanging out together is a lot more civilized than five or four or even three men hanging out together; were a man to undertake a project of the same nature as Jen's I think it would have to focus more on one-on-one interactions between men.
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          • RE: I wonder... Posted on May 14 2008 at 5:09pm by sweet.jane.342
            Well, yeah maybe they interact differently when they are not in a pack, but when are they not in a pack? And aren't some of the best parts of Flying when there are multiple women on the screen, sharing? I don't know, I just don't think it would translate well.
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        • RE: I wonder... Posted on May 14 2008 at 6:16pm by jimmy.j.madison
          Come on jane, there is a world of men that extends beyond your boyfriend's group of friends. I know a few men who are deeper and more open verbally than any women I know. I may not be very outward emotionally, but I know that my internal processes are indeed very complex (this should in no way imply that I don't find farting and penis jokes absolutely hilarious).
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    • RE: I wonder... Posted on May 14 2008 at 4:02pm by sam.s.bruce
      I think it would be just as fascinating to see a man put on display in the same way Jen put herself on display. I think there is a common man language, but it would really take a man turning the camera on himself to allow it to come out.
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      • RE: I wonder... Posted on May 14 2008 at 6:37pm by clinchmountain35
        I just really don't believe that common language thing works along gender lines. There are different levels of communication - I think a woman will more easily communicate with a man from his town than a woman on the other side of the country.
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      • RE: I wonder... Posted on May 14 2008 at 6:40pm by saltydog282
        What I would really like to see is for someone to make a documentary that examines the inability of the special language of women and the special language of men to coincide in a way that lets them understand each other!
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      • RE: I wonder... Posted on May 14 2008 at 6:40pm by saltydog282
        What I would really like to see is for someone to make a documentary that examines the inability of the special language of women and the special language of men to coincide in a way that lets them understand each other!
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